And I had forgotten all that because all the papers and the documents were here in Germany with my mom. And when I was brought into the hospital and they took the X-rays and found that scar and asked my husband and me where it's from, I couldn't remember until I called that evening when we went home, I called my mom and she decided to come over. It was 1979 and she came to the States and stayed with us a month or two. And she told me the whole story and I decided to pursue... my compensation. Which they denied me over the years.
You suffered a lot. What? What, what were you experiencing? What were the lasting ill effects that you got due to these experiments that were performed on you?
For a long time, I was unable to be educated. I had a lack because I would have headaches. I couldn't be around people with white clothes... constantly passing out. I always was sick. I was, I mean, very, very ill, all the way up to 19, 20, I got married with 21, had my son with 22. It started getting better. But when my children got older, I had the same problems again. I never was without headaches, migraine headaches once or twice a month, passing out, scared. When I walk, the car would honk the horn. I would just pass out, you know? And I just always was sick and ill.
When, when your mother came over. This is 1979. So you are 36 years old. And she told me this story, at 36. What? What happened? Like, how did you feel when she told you the entire story?
Well, I just broke down. I just broke down and cried. And I hated Germany. I never wanted to come back here. And my son and my daughter at school age...at first we didn't tell them. It was just my husband and myself and mama...and it was hard. And then mama had a breakdown and I had a breakdown. She was so happy that she had me. But I got to understand a lot, a lot of it. And later on, I had to tell my kids to say that I would go to Germany and see to get compensation for it.
I mean, what did you understand? You're saying your mom made you understand? What did you understand?
She understand that I'm different. It makes you feel like you're a different human being because you understand you're a gypsy. You were born a gypsy. You were prosecuted. You were hated. You went through the Holocaust with other people, the Jewish people, the Sinti people, it's always the same...